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		<title>By: affordable wedding videography</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-3986</link>
		<dc:creator>affordable wedding videography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on how photo-friendly the space is you’ll have to deal with limited space for your equipment, limited access to power outlets</description>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-3974</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Trish! actually I must say i have softened my stance somewhat on Photography since I wrote this piece last year.

Especially since my photographer friends (yes, i still have some LOL) keep fighting the good fight.

While I don&#039;t think the average business needs the super-high end photos produced by top of the line lenses and such, I wouldn&#039;t go so far now as to say it&#039;s not &quot;worth it&quot;. If a business or consumer decides it&#039;s worth it to them, then so be it. And those who gain satisfaction/salary from taking photos then so be it.

I guess there wouldn&#039;t be a market if there weren&#039;t people to demand the product. All the best in that camper van! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Trish! actually I must say i have softened my stance somewhat on Photography since I wrote this piece last year.</p>
<p>Especially since my photographer friends (yes, i still have some LOL) keep fighting the good fight.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t think the average business needs the super-high end photos produced by top of the line lenses and such, I wouldn&#8217;t go so far now as to say it&#8217;s not &#8220;worth it&#8221;. If a business or consumer decides it&#8217;s worth it to them, then so be it. And those who gain satisfaction/salary from taking photos then so be it.</p>
<p>I guess there wouldn&#8217;t be a market if there weren&#8217;t people to demand the product. All the best in that camper van! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Gant</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-3963</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish Gant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what John, I&#039;d slit my wrists right now if I thought the last 20 years were such a waste of time. My ideal is to work with people who do recognise the value in what I do. 

 I have resigned myself to a very, very lonely retirement camping out on a mountain, living out of a camper van, doing landscapes for pleasure and living off a can of beans because the revenue I&#039;m making from stock ain&#039;t gonna cut it for my pension.

Sounds idyllic....ahhhhhhhh! I hope it&#039;s a pale blue and white VW one.

Guess we won&#039;t be working together much then ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what John, I&#8217;d slit my wrists right now if I thought the last 20 years were such a waste of time. My ideal is to work with people who do recognise the value in what I do. </p>
<p> I have resigned myself to a very, very lonely retirement camping out on a mountain, living out of a camper van, doing landscapes for pleasure and living off a can of beans because the revenue I&#8217;m making from stock ain&#8217;t gonna cut it for my pension.</p>
<p>Sounds idyllic&#8230;.ahhhhhhhh! I hope it&#8217;s a pale blue and white VW one.</p>
<p>Guess we won&#8217;t be working together much then ;)</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-2262</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane, yes that seems to be the case with the arts. I can&#039;t fault people who *truly* have the love for it. If they&#039;re willing to take the lumps along with the gold then so be it! Thanks for commenting and all the best in your dancing career :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane, yes that seems to be the case with the arts. I can&#8217;t fault people who *truly* have the love for it. If they&#8217;re willing to take the lumps along with the gold then so be it! Thanks for commenting and all the best in your dancing career :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jane @ lcd tv</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane @ lcd tv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a dancer and this is very similar kind of problem, you cand dance just for fun or you can dance filled by passion, and of course we(dancers) don&#039;t earn regular money at all but we have to train every day we just have a lot of hope, passion and love and that are main factors why we do it. There is a lot people who just dance but there is only few who are passionate and don&#039;t care about nothing else, there are better and worse times in life but we still do it no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a dancer and this is very similar kind of problem, you cand dance just for fun or you can dance filled by passion, and of course we(dancers) don&#8217;t earn regular money at all but we have to train every day we just have a lot of hope, passion and love and that are main factors why we do it. There is a lot people who just dance but there is only few who are passionate and don&#8217;t care about nothing else, there are better and worse times in life but we still do it no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-2204</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Mike I guess that&#039;s the thing I neglected to address. if it&#039;s a labor of love for the Photographer, then by all means go for it.

I&#039;ve worked with some photographers who really seem to have the love for it, and also others who stress and agonize over everything and there doesn&#039;t seem to be much passion there.

Thanks for dropping in and commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Mike I guess that&#8217;s the thing I neglected to address. if it&#8217;s a labor of love for the Photographer, then by all means go for it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked with some photographers who really seem to have the love for it, and also others who stress and agonize over everything and there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much passion there.</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping in and commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike@led tv ireland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike@led tv ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sure Commercial Photography is not so much fun and you&#039;re not so free when you make photos, BUT if you loves taking photos and all of stuff connected with it then why you shouldn&#039;t do this?

Of course there will be a lot of moments which sucks but also i can assure You that there will be many great ones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sure Commercial Photography is not so much fun and you&#8217;re not so free when you make photos, BUT if you loves taking photos and all of stuff connected with it then why you shouldn&#8217;t do this?</p>
<p>Of course there will be a lot of moments which sucks but also i can assure You that there will be many great ones!</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-2046</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;re right. Once I took a look at what you wrote, I realized I should re-examine my...oh, wait...bwa-ha-ha-haaaaa.

Sorry. Couldn&#039;t keep up it up anymore, it&#039;s just too funny. I was actually having a bad day until I read this, so thanks.

See that&#039;s what I love about the internet: People who leave long, thought out comments on blogs written by people that they consider to be idiots. Oh, the irony :)

Anyway, best of luck with your blog post about graphic designers that neither I, nor probably anyone else will care about enough to leave long comments on. Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;re right. Once I took a look at what you wrote, I realized I should re-examine my&#8230;oh, wait&#8230;bwa-ha-ha-haaaaa.</p>
<p>Sorry. Couldn&#8217;t keep up it up anymore, it&#8217;s just too funny. I was actually having a bad day until I read this, so thanks.</p>
<p>See that&#8217;s what I love about the internet: People who leave long, thought out comments on blogs written by people that they consider to be idiots. Oh, the irony :)</p>
<p>Anyway, best of luck with your blog post about graphic designers that neither I, nor probably anyone else will care about enough to leave long comments on. Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I love about the Internet.  Any moron can get a blog to state their highly-opinionated, ignorant presuppositions as if they know what the hell they&#039;re talking about.  &quot;Oooh, let me give you my glib opinion on a topic that I don&#039;t really understand.  After all, this is the Internets.&quot;

Hey, Chief, did you know in some circumstances you just can&#039;t get a usable shot if you&#039;re widest aperture is f/4 and you&#039;re required to use only ambient light?  I&#039;ve got a few shots that have paid for my 70-200 f/2.8 IS lens SPECIFICALLY because I could shoot at 2.8 with the IS turned on.  Those two things are what makes that lens ~$2,000 as opposed to the $600 f/4 non-IS version.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s WORTH two grand.  And, no, you don&#039;t need that for every shot.  But guess what?  The same is true for many fields/careers.  Professionals buy the tools they need for a broad range of circumstances so they&#039;re prepared for the job, no matter what.  My camera body was $2,500.  Why did I pay that?  For the ISO.  Again, some clients require ambient light shots.  In low light settings, a few extra stops of ISO might be the only means to capturing the mood and freeze any movement.

Frankly, I don&#039;t think you really know shit about photography.  

It&#039;s true.... a lot of people probably can&#039;t tell the difference between a mediocre shot and a great shot.  (Of course, same goes for graphic design.)  Or can they?  In my experience, while the average person doesn&#039;t comment on the warm or cool feeling of a photo, the quality of the bokeh, or the rim light that defines a jaw line, they usually CAN recognize an image that looks like a &quot;magazine-quality&quot; professional shot.  And those who are willing to pay for that quality.... that&#039;s my demographic.  If someone wants to pay mediocre prices for mediocre photography, that&#039;s their prerogative.

Of course, after reading your blog, I can&#039;t assume you know the difference between a mediocre shot and a great shot either.  Creativity isn&#039;t just getting the correct WB or exposure or making sure everything&#039;s tack sharp or running an action in PS.  The fact that you don&#039;t seem to understand that betrays your ignorance and prejudice regarding photography and creativity.  What field are you in again?  Oh, that&#039;s right.  Graphic design.  You&#039;ve only assisted pro photographers.  Strange that a nurse is not a surgeon after she assists one for 10 years.  Maybe some people should learn that their tiny perspective is just that:  a tiny perspective.

Now if you&#039;ll excuse me I&#039;m gonna write my blog about why any idiot who has Adobe CS5 Master Collection and access to dafont dot com can do their own goddamn graphic/web design.  After all, it&#039;s just clicking buttons with a mouse, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I love about the Internet.  Any moron can get a blog to state their highly-opinionated, ignorant presuppositions as if they know what the hell they&#8217;re talking about.  &#8220;Oooh, let me give you my glib opinion on a topic that I don&#8217;t really understand.  After all, this is the Internets.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, Chief, did you know in some circumstances you just can&#8217;t get a usable shot if you&#8217;re widest aperture is f/4 and you&#8217;re required to use only ambient light?  I&#8217;ve got a few shots that have paid for my 70-200 f/2.8 IS lens SPECIFICALLY because I could shoot at 2.8 with the IS turned on.  Those two things are what makes that lens ~$2,000 as opposed to the $600 f/4 non-IS version.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s WORTH two grand.  And, no, you don&#8217;t need that for every shot.  But guess what?  The same is true for many fields/careers.  Professionals buy the tools they need for a broad range of circumstances so they&#8217;re prepared for the job, no matter what.  My camera body was $2,500.  Why did I pay that?  For the ISO.  Again, some clients require ambient light shots.  In low light settings, a few extra stops of ISO might be the only means to capturing the mood and freeze any movement.</p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t think you really know shit about photography.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true&#8230;. a lot of people probably can&#8217;t tell the difference between a mediocre shot and a great shot.  (Of course, same goes for graphic design.)  Or can they?  In my experience, while the average person doesn&#8217;t comment on the warm or cool feeling of a photo, the quality of the bokeh, or the rim light that defines a jaw line, they usually CAN recognize an image that looks like a &#8220;magazine-quality&#8221; professional shot.  And those who are willing to pay for that quality&#8230;. that&#8217;s my demographic.  If someone wants to pay mediocre prices for mediocre photography, that&#8217;s their prerogative.</p>
<p>Of course, after reading your blog, I can&#8217;t assume you know the difference between a mediocre shot and a great shot either.  Creativity isn&#8217;t just getting the correct WB or exposure or making sure everything&#8217;s tack sharp or running an action in PS.  The fact that you don&#8217;t seem to understand that betrays your ignorance and prejudice regarding photography and creativity.  What field are you in again?  Oh, that&#8217;s right.  Graphic design.  You&#8217;ve only assisted pro photographers.  Strange that a nurse is not a surgeon after she assists one for 10 years.  Maybe some people should learn that their tiny perspective is just that:  a tiny perspective.</p>
<p>Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me I&#8217;m gonna write my blog about why any idiot who has Adobe CS5 Master Collection and access to dafont dot com can do their own goddamn graphic/web design.  After all, it&#8217;s just clicking buttons with a mouse, right?</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://hypertransitory.com/blog/2010/07/11/commercial-photography-its-just-not-worth-it/#comment-807</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Stephen you have some points. Always striving for the best is admirable, but my point is that most people/clients can&#039;t tell what &quot;quality&quot; photos are anyway. We&#039;re just doing this stuff for ourselves.

$2,000 - $3,000 lenses and the like are NOT necessary. Only trained professionals can tell the difference anyway between that and a pro-sumer level camera. Most of those cameras take &quot;good enough&quot; photos that would work just as well for the client.

Thanks for commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Stephen you have some points. Always striving for the best is admirable, but my point is that most people/clients can&#8217;t tell what &#8220;quality&#8221; photos are anyway. We&#8217;re just doing this stuff for ourselves.</p>
<p>$2,000 &#8211; $3,000 lenses and the like are NOT necessary. Only trained professionals can tell the difference anyway between that and a pro-sumer level camera. Most of those cameras take &#8220;good enough&#8221; photos that would work just as well for the client.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting!</p>
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